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[Göteborg]Fellowship-möte på torsdag
by Stian Rødven Eide 04 Oct '11

04 Oct '11

Hej alla, Nu på torsdag är det dags för höstens första Fellowship-träff. Som vanligt möts vi i Gnutiken klockan 18.00. bästa hälsningar, Stian

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[Göteborg] Intressant bok (online) om licenser/juridik
by Henrik Sandklef 03 Oct '11

03 Oct '11

Snubblade på följande bok: The International Free and Open Source Software Law Book http://ifosslawbook.org/index/ Jag har själv inte läst den, men givet författarna* är den nog bra. Har någon läst den? /h *) Ywein Van den Brande, Shane Coughlan, Till Jaeger

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[Göteborg]Välkommen till Friposts första fest!
by Stefan Kangas 03 Mar '11

03 Mar '11

Fripost, föreningen för fri e-post, inviger stolt uppstarten och bjuder till fest: Friposts första fest. Dag: Lördag 12 mars Plats: Gnutiken, Övre Husargatan 27, Göteborg (vid Linnéplatsen) Aktivitetsschema: 14:00 - Filmvisning: The Conversation (Coppola, 1974) 16:30 - Presentation av Fripost 18:00 - Workshop: Lär dig kryptera e-post 19:00 - Fest! Festen är öppen för alla. Fripost säljer soppa, kakor, te och kaffe. Varmt välkomna! Om Fripost Fripost är en grupp som organiserat oss för att försvara våra intressen i en alltmer digitaliserad värld. Detta genom att bygga en autonom och tekniskt riktig infrastruktur för e-post. Vi vill ta tillbaka makten över vår information och vårt privatliv. Läs mer på http://fripost.org/ För kontakt, använd info(a)fripost.org -- Stefan Kangas PGP.mit.edu 8F4353EE/CEA1 DE21 AB10 8493 CC9C 6574 2E82 323B 8F43 53EE

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[Göteborg]Återkommande installfest / gratissupport på Gnutiken
by Stian Rødven Eide 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

Hej alla, Vi på Gnutiken har beslutat att ha återkommande installations- och reparationskvällar GNU/Linux. Det innebär gratis support för privatpersoner, och tiderna är varannan onsdag, udda veckor, mellan kl 17 och kl 21. Alla är välkomna att komma med sina datorer eller frågor, och vi skulle också uppskatta om någon av er som har erfarenhet kan hjälpa till på någon av dessa kvällar. För ni som inte känner till Gnutiken håller vi till i Göteborg och har adressen Övre Husargatan 27 (vid Linnéplatsen). bästa hälsningar, /Stian http://gnutiken.se

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Re: [Göteborg] PDF forms
by Maelle Costa 26 Feb '11

26 Feb '11

Hi Rikard, Hi all ! [*update on the previous conversation* Rikard has notified us that Swedish authorities tend to use more and more PDF forms created in a way that PDF readers other than Adobe Acrobat Reader (hereafter AA Reader) can open it but display : "To view the full contents of this document, you need a later version of the PDF viewer. You can upgrade to the latest version of Adobe Reader from www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html For further support, go to www.adobe.com/support/products/acrreader.html" an example: http://polisen.se/Vastra_Gotaland/sv/Service/Blanketter/Tillstand/Vanliga-b… A developper from Evince helped us determine the source of the problem : - the PDF is specially crafted so you won't be able to see it unless you are using Adobe reader and a new version... - the institution seems to be using Adobe Live Cycling to create the PDFs. We think it a good idea to contact the institutions to make them aware that this is a problem... Rikard has declared himself ready to contact them, but we might need some help in preparation of the contact] Rikard already contacted the Swedish police who was quite little understanding : On 01/19/2011 01:26 PM, Rikard Fröberg wrote: > I actually contacted the Swedish Police on this matter and described the situation thoroughly to them, explaining each step and the implications of them offering applications in a form that requires particular software, proprietary no less, and got a confused reply where they explained: "Yes, we are aware. That's why we changed to PDF recently." Is there a wiki or so, on which I could create a sub page for this PDF > forms problem? I could start listing Swedish institutions offering this > crippled format and provide example links there. I.e. they didn't understand that the PDFs they create cause a problem similar to when they had *other* file formats before. Sigh. So, first, Rikard, we would need to know exactly what you explained to them, so that we know what arguments are not convincing for them. >From what I see so far, *We need to explain them* : - PDF is an Open Standard [1] - Open Standard are precisely here to make sure several programs from several developpers / companies can open then, i.e. to make sure to ensure *independence from vendor*, *maximal accessibility for the public* and *compatibility*. - In creating / editing PDFs that can only be open by AA Reader deprives the Standard from its advantages, but worse, it forces people into using one program, into buying it from one vendor (being locked with him), and the fact that it is free of charge is no parameter here. - They could improve their accessibility in creating forms that are not crafted, that can be open by any program designed to open the standard. - we can help them to figure out how to do that *we should not say* : - The way they create their form is wrong -> they would probably react not be very listening if we start telling them they are wrong, we should rather tell them they can be better. *What we need to search in preparation*: - Free Software PDF readers are not very performant with forms. They can usually open them, but not save the information entered, and not perform a check-up routine. We need to determine which software are good at *editing* PDFs that can be open by all readers. It would be better here to have Free Software to suggest, in case they aren't, I guess it would already be an improvement to have institutions publish forms that can be open by Free Software even if they are created by a proprietary one... - Rikard suggested there were possibilities to create forms with Open Office or libre Office. Nico here tested Open Office, it worked for what concerns the form functions, but we couldn't figure out how to design the layout we wanted for the PDF... Some research here would be good before recommending these options - other options would be good. - @Rikard : there is the possibility to create a wiki page on FSFE's wiki (wiki.fsfe.org). If you don't have an account there, either one of the Fellows in Sweden could help you create the list of institutions, or you can create a guest account [2]. *Do you have other ideas, comments on how we can procede here*? Thanks for your involvement here, Regards Maëlle [1] http://pdfreaders.org/os.en.html [2] https://wiki.fsfe.org/UserGuide#Guest_accounts -- Maëlle Costa Free Software Foundation Europe - intern im : maelle(a)jabber.fsfe.org

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[Göteborg]Fellowship-möte på torsdag
by Stian Rødven Eide 11 Jan '11

11 Jan '11

Hej alla, Nu på torsdag är det dags för vårens första Fellowship-träff. Som vanligt möts vi i Gnutiken klockan 18.00. bästa hälsningar, Stian

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[Göteborg] Tips: Humble Indie Bundle
by Stefan Kangas 15 Dec '10

15 Dec '10

Vill bara tipsa om Humble Indie Bundle: fem (5) datorspel till vilket pris man vill. Spelen saknar DRM och man kan donera hela summan till Electronic Frontier Foundation (eff.org). Spelen fungerar givetvis i GNU/Linux. Det här är uppföljare till den första Humble Indie Bundle, som resulterade i mycken bra uppmärskamhet för fria operativsystem som spelplattform och att fyra spel i slutändan släpptes som fri programvara. Låter kanon, eller hur!? Läs mer på: http://www.humblebundle.com/ Själv satte jag hela min summa som en donation till EFF. Hälsningar, Stefan Kangas -- Kalendervägen 38, lgh 192 415 11 Göteborg tel: 072-2053488 Gå med i Fripost -- föreningen för fri e-post! Läs mer på: http://fripost.org/

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[Göteborg]Fripost -- möte 9 december
by Stefan Kangas 07 Dec '10

07 Dec '10

[English version below.] Välkommen på träff med Fripost - den fria e-postföreningen! Vi ses på Gnutiken, Övre Husargatan 27, nu på torsdag klockan 18:00. Meningen är att alla som vill ska lära sig mer om kryptering och signering av e-post. Vi fokuserar på cacert.org, men ni som redan har OpenPGP-nycklar -- ta med slips och legitimation så signerar vi varandras nycklar. Så klart ska man gärna ta med alla man känner -- man kan gå med i föreningen direkt på mötet. Välkommen! Meeting December 9th Welcome to a meeting with Fripost -- the free e-mail association! We meet at Gnutiken, Övre Husargat 27, this Thursday at 18:00. Everyono who is interested will get the opportunity to learn more about encrypting e-mail. We will focus on cacert.org, but if you already have your key you may bring it together with ID and we will sign each others keys. You should bring everyone you know -- it is possible to join the association on the meeting. Welcome! Stefan Kangas ordförande i Fripost

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[Göteborg] November 4, 2010 -- Welcome to founding meeting of the Free E-mail Association
by Stefan Kangas 01 Nov '10

01 Nov '10

I am proud to announce the founding of a new association: Fripost, The Free E-mail Association ("Fripost, Den fria e-postföreningen"). We will have a founding meeting November 4, 2010 18:00 at Gnutiken, Övre Husargatan 27, 41314 Göteborg. Please see the suggestions for by-laws on the website: http://fellowship.se/wiki/Projekt/friepost We need to elect: a president (ordförande), a board (styrelse), an accountant (revisor) and a nominating committee (valberedning). With privately controlled e-mail services like Gmail or Yahoo mail the users' freedom and integrity will always come second to the service providers interests. We want to create an alternative. More concretely, this means that we will collaborate around and run a number of mail servers. The associations email service will be free as in free speech, but not as in free beer. We will be financed primarily by our membership fees. The association will be democratic, and the e-mail service as transparent as possible. To guarantee this, we must be independent from any third parties. We will suggest a membership fee of 300 SEK per year. This means that we need 50 members to reach 15,000 SEK, which is our estimate of what we need before we can begin with the initial investments. Specifically, we need to buy storage and pay for hosting. The rest can be done by using already donated or otherwise borrowed hardware. We are already running temporary systems that will only need a tad bit more configuring and testing before we are ready to allow the members to start using them. Everyone is free to become a member at the meeting, and everyone who is a member is electable for the board. There will be a nomination process during the meeting, and the elections will be secret. To achieve a sufficient level of reliability, we need to do some investments in hardware and hosting. This means we need members. The problem is that some people might be less willing to join until everything is up and running. However, we must not let ourselves be trapped by this deadlock. We need to do the opposite of waiting around: now is the time to take action. We invite you to join us and share our vision of a user controlled email service. All interested parties, whether they know for sure they want to join or not, are welcome to our founding meeting and to visit our presentation at FSCONS. What better place than here? What better time than now? Sincerely, Stefan Kangas

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Re: [Göteborg]Results from last night: We will found the assocation November 4
by Rikard Fröberg 29 Oct '10

29 Oct '10

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Stefan Kangas <skangas(a)skangas.se> wrote: >> Unfree speech OR Free beer > > You are correct! > >> you shouldn't have to choose between the two ;-) > > This specific conclusion is wrong, however. The disjunction is > inclusive, not exclusive. You CAN have both! ;-) Right, but very few would want free beer at the cost of unfree speech (it wouldn't be free if it had a cost, so, in a way, it translates into exclusivity ;-) or a contradiction ) >> Sorry for the rant, I couldn't help myself ;-) > > Thanks for spotting this mistake! > I actually had fun spotting it ^^ And, no I wasn't serioius, I just felt we could take out the "opposite" word :D Peace and love! Rikard

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