willi uebelherr transcribed 5.5K bytes:
Dear friends,
this is my translated answer in the FSFde and FreiFunk-talk list in german.
I only have a short comment for now: 1. our initial invitation forgot to point out in a better way that we (GNUnet) did not come up with the term 'NGI'. 2. This is a GNUnet invitation. I have no idea why you keep pulling infotropique (all small letters) in, which is related but not GNUnet itself.
My proposal for the InterNet, "the Inter-connection of local net-works", I also gave the people of the EU Surfey program "The Next Generation Internet". Clearly, with such a proposal are these people, who are only oriented in private/state structures and to hanle the telecommunication as a capitalizable object, completely overstrained.
We should always go back to the starting point. The Internet is only a transport system for digital data in packat form. Everything else is based on the application level. And to the transport system belongs the routing, the navigation, and the error check. We want, that the packats arrive the destination as we sent them.
I can gladly give you my proposal, which is well-known in the FreiFunk environment and in some FSF lists. Whether I can be in Berlin is still open.
My basic approach is that people organize the telecommunication themselves in their local communities, from small to large. Private and governmental instances emerge from the outset. And only in this way is the telecommunication from the monetary system, but this is imperative.
My basic approach is that the people organize the telecommunication themselves from their local communities, from small to large. Private and governmental instances are not needed and are superfluous. And only on this way is the telecommunication removable from the money system, a basic necessity.
with many greetings, willi Asuncion, Paraguay
-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: Berlin 2018, Workshop for a Next Generation Internet Datum: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 09:35:08 +0000 Von: ng0 ng0@infotropique.org An: discussion@lists.fsfe.org
To whom it may concern beyond just being affected...
the Internet is so broken, even the European Parliament passes resolutions against it[0] while the European Commission fosters the exploration of better solutions[1]. Some of us have been working on a new Internet all along and continue to do so.
We would like to invite you after 34C3, to Berlin, to discuss and hack Next Generation Internet technologies. The kind that actually replace parts of the existing Internet, not just adds complexity to it.
Start: Friday, 5th of January, 2018 End: Sunday, 7th of January, 2018
Location: Onionspace, Gottschedstraße 4, Aufgang 4, 13347 Berlin
We're roughly a dozen coders, working on one such solution. With a social interaction layer on top of GNUnet[2] - called secushare[3] - we want to continue our efforts on developing a basic communication technology for a better democratic society in which people be free to communicate, share information, participate in social discourse, and be empowered to establish structures through digital means to organize themselves and renew the idea of democracy. A truly social network, resistant against manipulation by DarkAds[4] and political dashboard optimization (see Facebook's Malvinas affair[5]) is becoming a precondition for reasonable election results.
Some updates on what we have been doing lately:
- Debugging of GNUnet sevices, e.g. multicast, psyc, social (all)
- UI design for secushare (all)
- Improved documentation (Drupal to Tex to Texinfo conversion and cleanup,
etc) (WIP by ng0)
- Improving the documentation (this involved Drupal to Tex to Texinfo
conversion and applying fixes and changes to it) (by ng0)
- Rust bindings for GNUnet (WIP by lurchi, t3sserakt) * Refactoring the
GNUnet scheduler for use with epoll / foreign language bindings (WIP by lurchi, t3sserakt)
- Continuous integration and deployment infrastructure, with E2E tests
(WIP by dvn)
- Guix packaging (WIP by ng0)
- GNUnet integration into GuixSD (WIP by ng0)
- A new GNUnet website (coming up, moving away from Drupal)
At our New Year meeting, we'd like to talk about some social, technical and infrastructural topics: * Where we are with secushare, and what's next
- Our role in the European Commission's Next Generation Internet
- The use of a deteministic debugger to get the annoying bugs removed.[7]
- Better guidance for interested people to join the GNUnet community.
- AGPL Licensing - Will it save us?
- CI/CD for GNUnet, and adjacent projects
- Fixing gnunet-fs
- infotropique[8] OS - a GuixSD based OS interwoven[9] with GNUnet
Again, we welcome you to Berlin. If you need a place to stay just get in touch, we will find something cheap and hospitable. For those already around on New Year's Eve, we want to party away the bad vibes of 2017, embrace the shapes of things to come with good music, drinks, food, and nice people. So if you are interested, you can already join us earlier, or meet us in smaller groups during the whole week.
'Til then, Happy hacking!
los secushare peoples. xrs, dvn, lurchi, lynX, t3sserakt, ng0...
[0] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+TA+P8-TA-20... [1] https://nlnet.net/NGI/ [2] https://gnunet.org [3] http://secushare.cheettyiapsyciew.onion or just http://secushare.org [4] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/31/facebook-dark-ads-can-swi... [5] https://theintercept.com/2015/04/02/gchq-argentina-falklands/ [7] http://rr-project.org/ [8] https://www.infotropique.org [9] https://gnunet.org/git/infotropique.git/tree/ROADMAP
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