From: joack@gmx.net
this
/*-------------------------------------------------------------------- ------*/ 4.The Open Group reserves the right to charge for HTML/PDF versions of its publications in the future. /*-------------------------------------------------------------------- ------*/
is exactly the passage Markj has been refering to for a week now. I.e. behält sich das Recht vor in Zukunft für seine Publikationen Geld zu verlangen. Not to charge for future publication (für zukünftige ...) and while this may not be the most probable outcome, they may thus charge for stuff you already have. AND they may charge ANY sum. This would not be legal here in our country, but ...
It oboiusly a miss interpretation!
You are not allowed to save a copy of the HTML version. So you cannot "have" the standard at home.
I believe it would be illegal in any country to charge for a publication that you only have been able to view.
It is obvious that Mark simply does not like to view the standard :-(
.. If you participated the standard creation, you would have a legal PDF and a TEXT version. This version has line numbers for the editors and this looks a bit ugly for this reason :-)
Besides pdf isn't exactly a free standart, is it?
I would rather like to have a free standard but at least PDF works nearly everywhere.
Jörg
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Joerg Schilling schilling@fokus.gmd.de wrote:
It oboiusly a miss interpretation!
They are obviously badly worded terms.
You are not allowed to save a copy of the HTML version. So you cannot "have" the standard at home.
Where does it say about continued possession being required? Also, I have a local cache, so it would be saved here, in effect.
I believe it would be illegal in any country to charge for a publication that you only have been able to view.
I am not a lawyer. Are you?
It is obvious that Mark simply does not like to view the standard :-(
I'm indifferent, actually. It was a mere curiousity to justify a point you made and, as such, while I would go to a library to look something up, I would not buy the book, especially not one without a marked price.
.. If you participated the standard creation
== If I paid money to join, etc?
Anyway, what is the point of this paragraph?
MJR
On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 08:54:18PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
.. If you participated the standard creation, you would have a legal PDF and a TEXT version. This version has line numbers for the editors and this looks a bit ugly for this reason :-)
Only the draft versions have line numbers, not the official standard. You can download the draft versions if you sign up for the mailinglist, see http://www.opengroup.org/austin/ for more information. You won't get a legal version of the standard if you signed up.
Besides pdf isn't exactly a free standart, is it?
I would rather like to have a free standard but at least PDF works nearly everywhere.
What's non-free about the PDF?
Jeroen Dekkers