Bernhard Reiter wrote:
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 10:06:05PM +0100, Frank Heckenbach wrote:
Bernhard Reiter wrote:
| Many people have made major contributions to the free software in | the system, and they all deserve credit. But the reason it is a | system--and not just a collection of useful programs--is because the | GNU Project set out to make it one.
I guess the same can be said about Red Hat, SuSE etc.
Last time I've checked Suse did not produce a Free Software operating system distribution.
Last time I've checked I didn't claim this.
Isn't this exactly a reason why they should *not* call their system "SuSE GNU/Linux"?
Sure, they built on the existing work of the GNU system, but so did GNU on BSD (which is also a complete system, not just a random collection of programs).
A system is more than just a collection of components.
Which is exactly what I claimed.
The overall goal to complete give all users freedom regarding there computational software needs was first formulated by RMS. He consequently made a plan and started the GNU project. No effort with such a goal and long lasting results ever existed. Many doubt that it would have been possible without the immunisating effect of the GNU GPL. The FSF also was the first to expressed the larger connections between access to information, right to learn and read with computer software and advantages of Free Software.
It is true that people around BSD tried to reach some similiar goals. The FSF's vision was broader, better expressed and build more momentum.
I knew all this, and I don't deny this. But thanks for pointing it out again for anyone who didn't know it yet.
This is why RMS got a couple of rewards for his groundbreaking work with the GNU project and the FSF. Scientists try to give credit to the biggest archievement in the area. Regarding the availability of Free Software operating systems the GNU project and all its contributor for sure made most significant impact.
This is what the FSFE rightfully (and politely) asks for:
My original reply was to someone whose asking was a little less than polite (not an official FSF(E) spokesman though -- at least I hope).
Please give credit to this. Using "GNU/Linux" can be a suitable way to do so.
IMHO the rewads are a much better way to give credit than the naming. In fact, if the global Linux -> GNU/Linux renaming that some seem to want would really happen, I think the word GNU would lose much of tis special meaning and only be perceived as something related to/part of Linux by many people. I wouldn't like this.
Frank