Note: Top-posting so that new people know to what I'm replying to.
Is everything going OK in that periodic check?
As a side-note: I wonder if someone from this list is going to a random number of these in-person meetings.
Finally, for every case: don't worry, this message isn't meant to be aggressive.
2017-11-18T10:50:48+0000 Andres Muniz Piniella wrote:
Agreed with this (my thoughts exactly), I will check in from time to time to make sure faif is mentioned. In the mean time we can monitor here: https://medium.com/doteveryone/responsible-tech/home
Andres (he/him/his)
On Fri, 2017-11-17 at 11:16 -0200, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote:
Just for informational purposes: I thank Mx. Piniella and also those from Doteveryone who replied.
However, I do hope that either:
the suggestions and notes presented are implemented or discussed explicitly;
they discuss the importance of free/libre software philosophy/movement explicitly during the related programs/tracks;
they put the related free/libre software philosophy/movement and its projects as important/necessary/rquired part of the process;
they foster people getting in touch with the related free/libre software activists and non-profit and charity organizations.
These points are important because, at least in the groups I observed from afar/far here in Brazil, I noticed that even though a free/libre software activist takes days of his life to write ellaborated reply or suggestions to this regard, little is done from the affected organizations in regards to discussing the issues explicitly. Most of the times, in the organizations here in Brazil we have only some basic mention of "accessibility", "privacy", "security", "development", but almost no explicit mention and discussion on the free/libre software philosophy and its movement, its principles, and relations with sustainability (which goes beyond the environmental pillar), democracy, politics, federation, economics (which deals with the effects of resource scarcity, limits, overuse or underuse; not to be confused with finance and chrematistics), capability-based approach/theory of political philosophy, the conflict between competition (and "competitive advantage") and collaboration, ethics (and moral dilemmas), and how non-exclusive and non-rival naturally-public goods with zero transaction costs and which can have positive externalities behave different than other goods.
Finally, during the discussions, care must be taken so that free/libre software isn't framed as "required to be gratis". While in some cases one can acquire a copy of free/libre software or free/libre system distribution by paying nothing for it, there are costs associated with maintainance, training costs, development, customization for specific needs, adapting previous customizations after getting updates (because someone has to keep the pieces, or do even better by contributing them to the original project). All these costs also exist in the case of non-free software, but they are felt and paid for in other ways (which the public wouldn't agree with if told exclicitly beforehand). By making these needs and costs explicit, it's possible to open oors for fostering the local/municipal, regional, national/federal, and international economies.
Respectfully, Adonay.
Andres Muniz Piniella a75576@alumni.tecnun.es writes:
On Thu, 2017-11-09 at 18:22 -0200, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote:
Anyways, while that message doesn't come, here is the message I would send to the organizations involved.
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Andonay: Your feedback has been forwarded on and Laura James, technology principal at Doteveryone. Has said:
"thanks for the feedback! (...)Also useful to have feedback on the Trustworthy tech partners handbook and the thinking therein - this is the first serious feedback we’ve had on that :slightly_smiling_face: will think about this as we work through the program and refine our ideas"
So thank you! If anybody else wants to review any more documents I can send the odt of the google doc and pdf document (I have asked for a link on that one).
A related coop that is out is: https://diglife.com if worth discussing I can create a separate thread for this.