On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:08:51PM +0100, Georg C. F. Greve wrote:
As was pointed out by others before, this part of the raffle is about giving developers access to hardware that is coming closest to our goals and thus give them the best start in making them entirely free.
That's not a very good point though.
If you want to get these things made free, put out a call for help on the website, and ask people to apply giving some vague idea of how they'll be used, and then decide, privately to give them if you must.
For mobile devices it is unfortunately not yet true and requires more work by the Free Software community.
Does that mean we should abandon our ethics for the sake of convienience? I can't get my ATI card to work with free drivers, so is the FSFE going to recommend I use proprietary drivers? By the way, the machine is an all-in-one unit, so I can't swap out the card.
What do you suggest I do?
Without Debian there would have been no Ubuntu, and without Ubuntu there would be no Gnewsense. And Gnewsense itself helped influence others to think about providing pure Free Software distributions.
I think if Mark Shuttleworth had wanted to build a distro, he would have done it anyway, regardless of Debian. The fact that Debian provided a lot of the groundwork is a great resource, but that doesn't mean people should be recommending Ubuntu or Debian to others.
I'd be more concerned by the fact that somewhere along the way, even Debian with their freer-than-free attitude, decided that non-free software was okay too.
In the case of Ubuntu, the distribution was available without cost on the internet. That is not true for hardware. But if someone had told me that they wanted to create Gnewsense and they needed access to Ubuntu to do that job, I would indeed have sent them a DVD.
RMS using Debian is very different from RMS promoting Debian. I'm sure if you emailed RMS five years ago and asked him which distro to install, he wouldn't have had an answer for you, or would have told you that no distro was a good distro as they all shipped proprietary software.
If I ask the FSFE Fellowship which is a good PDA, am I going to be told to buy an N800 because it's almost free software?
I think the best cause of action now, would be for FSFE to pull its entire raffle and rethink it's commitments to the free software community, putting the interests of software freedom before help-us-get-some-Nokia-to-run-Firefox-please.
I'm hearing a lot of Fellows say they won't renew, I only hope they'll at least consider donating their money to the FSF, rather than spending it elsewhere, because free software needs all the supporters we can get, and now is not the time for us to start alienating people for the sake of convienience.
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matt