Yavor Doganov yavor@doganov.org
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:35:29 +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
It can't be proved because it's not true, which is another reason that amendment shouldn't win. Others use those options, such as http://www.dwheeler.com/secure-programs/Secure-Programs-HOWTO/about-lic=
ense.html
Thanks for these links, I wasn't aware of their existence. I consider this one as an abuse of the GFDL -- the invariant sections should contain information that the author considers *important*. In this case the author thinks that he's very important, so I won't use his manual.
The relationship of the author to the topic is named in the FDL as one of the suitable topics for a Secondary section, so I don't see how it's abusing the FDL. He thinks describing himself is important. FSF thinks the GNU Manifesto is important. So be it.
I hope you now agree that Anton Zinoviev's amendment was supported by some false claims, even if you still think it should have won.
A more serious flaw is the title "Secure programming for Linux". Obviously he thinks that Linux is an operating system, which is a delusion.
I consider it a common mistake more than a delusion, but amen.
[...] Fortunately only a few people (the DDs that voted for it) have such perverted logic. If you think that the GNU Manifesto is adware, I can only say that there is a huge precipice between us.
I don't think the GNU Manifesto is adware. I think putting an unmodifiable GNU Manifesto into a manual debases the manifesto by making it a cheap advert and makes the manual adware.
If you think that you can impose your (the project's) view to other distributions to make that decision more legitimate, it's not going to happen.
I don't think that. All I do is explain my view, trying to find peace and not leave misleading statements about debian.
You have no idea how ridiculous it looks -- a priest teaching us about the foundations of Christianity while at the same time committing serial murders (yes, for a Free Software activist, I consider distributing non-free software the same as drug dealing or a crime of similar magnitude).
Interesting analogy. Apart from the murders, some FSF fans seem to think FSF is Pope Leo X, with nothing to learn about their subject: the debian project "when sober will change his mind". If that continues, I think this difference of approaches is about as likely to resolve as the main Christian church split.
Always sad IMO to liken free software to religion, though.
I'll still continue to licence my manuals under GNU FDL, a free licence, acknowledged as free by the majority of the Free Community.
When did the majority acknowledge FDL as free?