Hi People,
recently the question popped up about how many free software
is published under which license. We believe that the licenses of
the FSF, especially the GNU GPL is the most commonly used and
spreaded Free Software license.
Probably with BSD like licenses and Public domain coming next
(personal guess).
This is of course not just a matter of how many code lines are under
which license or the number of projects. It is also a matter of
importance. Nontheless I tried to collect some numbers I could grasp
easily, probably underrepresenting the BSD code out there.
Sourceforge:
http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=13
OSI Approved (8964 projects)
Public Domain (242 projects)
Other/Proprietary License (216 projects)
(I don't know why they allow proprietory licenses....., I always
thought they did not, but obviously someone should inquire otherwise
the brand sourceforge for free software is damaged.)
Comment: OSI generally means that the license is also FSF approved.
(with some exceptions, like the Artistic license.)
From http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=14
Including PD from above:
GNU General Public License (GPL) :6634
GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL) : 895
BSD License : 513
Public Domain : 242
Mozilla Public License (MPL) : 154
MIT/X Consortium License : 120
Python License : 80
QT Public License (QPL) : 63
zlib/libpng License : 49
IBM Public License : 11
Ricoh Source Code Public License : 5
MITRE Collaborative Virtual Workspace License (CVW) : 4
Artistic License (not free by FSF standards) : 307
Also LWN now publishes annoucement by license.
(I have bugged them about this for a long time. :) )
The annoucemente come from freshmeat for each week.
Unfortunalty I have not found an easy method to get the license distribution
of the freshmeat database. (I have send them mail and asked for it today.)
A small script could process the LWN annoucements starting with the
21.9.2000 when the annoucements were done by license the first time.
(lynx -dump is your friend.) Here are the results:
GPL:4615
LGPL: 376
BSD type: 317
OpenSource: 201
Public Domain: 86
Artistic & GPL: 66
Apache style: 65
MIT: 48
MPL: 44
QPL: 29
The PHP License: 22
IBM Public License: 10
unknown: 6
Eiffel Forum Freeware License: 6
NPL: 2
non-free licenses:
freely distributable: 228 *
Freeware: 169 *
free to use but restricted: 137 *
Artistic: 123 *
free for non-commercial use: 99 *
proprietary: 52 *
Free Trial: 45 *
source-available proprietary: 31 *
Shareware: 23 *
Voxel Public License: 3 *
Free World Licence: 1 *
AFPL: 1 *
Conclusion: Active and visible project on freshmeat and sourceforge
definately are dominated by the GNU GPL by an order of magnitute!
The LGPL seems to be second with unprotected free software types
BSD/MIT/PD being in the same league.
Therefore my thesis above is backed by some data.
And it makes sence, because LGPL and BSD/MIT/PD are useful licenses
for some special cases, when GPL protection inhibits other goals of
the project.
Cheers,
Bernhard
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FSF Europe (fsfeurope.org)
I read the following post on foundation-list(a)gnome.org...
Just to know... is there a similar plan a LinuxTag to better promote
GNOME... is it related to FSFE's activities ?
"Bradley M. Kuhn" a écrit :
>
> Hello, GNOMErs.
>
> As you may know, I, Bob Chassell, and Lisa M. Goldstein (the new FSF
> Business Manager) have taken over the various different aspects of
> conference and tradeshow planning for the Free Software Foundation.
>
> Earlier this month, we reserved a GNOME booth next to the FSF booth for
> USENIX in Boston, which is from 25 June until 30 June 2001. These booths
> were donated by USENIX.
>
> We have a number of people available to staff the booths who will be able
> to talk about the issues of software freedom. What we could really use
> from GNOME is a good hacker who can demonstrate GNOME well, and can talk
> about some of the technical details of GNOME. We could also use help with
> set up and break down of the booths themselves.
>
> I know there are many GNOME hackers here in Boston, so perhaps one of you
> could come to the event. Please write to <tradeshow-planning(a)gnu.org> for
> the details.
>
> -- bkuhn
> --
> Bradley M. Kuhn, Vice President
> Free Software Foundation | Phone: +1-617-542-5942
> 59 Temple Place, Suite 330 | Fax: +1-617-542-2652
> Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA | Web: http://www.gnu.org
>
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Pétition contre les brevets logiciels : http://petition.eurolinux.org
Hello, friends of Free Software in Europe,
I herewith offer to create T-shirts and other merchandising articles
with the "Europa riding a gnu" graphics - if possible, before the
Linux-Tag.
* T-shirts. On the other side can be a text "This T-shirt is a
free T-shirt. You can copy it and/or modify it under the terms
of the GNU General Public License ...".
Other ideas? Special wishes for the T-shirts? Anyone who prefers
polo shirts?
* Key chains with coins (Euro-sized) which can be used in supermarked
trolleys and such. They will cost about as much as the T-shirts, but
they are of a high quality - engraved metal, not printed plastic -
see http://adele.gerwinski.de/~peter/coin-20010522/ .
The other side of the coin can display, for instance, the value
"1 European GNU".
Other ideas?
* Badgets. I am going to get a machine to produce them. If someone
who is located near Essen (Germany) wants to help, we can produce
them at a very reasonable price. :-)
* Pins. These can display the famous "A gnu head" graphics
(or something else?) and serve as pendants of the ubiquitous
Tux Pins.
* Anything missing? Anything which will not sell in your opinion?
I will do this for cost price, and I am going to advance the initial
investment from my private money. When we sell these articles, the
profit will be donated to the FSFE.
Peter
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Maintainer GNU Pascal - http://home.pages.de/~GNU-Pascal/ - gpc-20010520
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Hi,
This is the report I wrote on the plane back to France. It is
primarily targeted to friends and volunteers of the chapter france
but you may want to read it anyway.
Cheers,
http://france.fsfeurope.org/news/article2001-05-28-01.en.html
FSF, APRIL, FSF France and GNU working together
On May 21, 2001 [13]FSF France shipped me ([14]Lo�c Dachary) to
Boston. I was to install a new set of hardware for the [15]Savannah
development tool. In the plane back to Paris I realized that this
week was so intense that you'd probably like to share some bits of
it with me.
The FSF distribution office (DO) is located in Boston downtown,
near the park. I went there straight from the airport to check my
mail and meet with [16]Bradley M. Kuhn, [17]Lisa Goldstein and
[18]Brian Youmans who are working there to further Free Software
day after day. When I entered the 50 square meter room with my
knapsack, I also had the surprise to discover that [19]Janet Casey
was working here. For some reason I thought she was maintaining the
Free Software Directory from somewhere else. After a cheerful
greeting, I was able to connect and everybody went back to work.
Around 7pm [20]Richard M. Stallman came to pick me up with [21]Tom
Turner's car. We spent an entertaining 30 minutes to go to china
town and park. You have to realize that china town is 5 minutes
walk from the DO and you'll understand why it's customary for
people living in Boston to avoid using their car. That was about
the only time I was in a car, the subway was far more convenient.
After diner we drove back to the MIT AI Lab (tech square) and I was
able to connect and work some more. The MIT AI Lab is located in
the Laboratory of Computer Science, 545 Tech Square. For some
reason someone decided to renumber it to 200 Tech Square. When I
asked, Bradley told me that they will destroy the building and
relocate everyone in another one, currently in construction across
the street. One morning, coming from tech square I paused in front
of the sign advertising the new building. On the top left it reads,
yellow on blue : William H. Gates. I did not even ask for more
information, it just gave me the creeps and I headed for the DO,
two subway stations away.
While configuring the new machine at the DO, I was immersed in the
day to day activities of the FSF. Brian tirelessly ships and
receive books, mugs and t-shirts, using more space than anyone.
There were intense discussions about the new t-shirt based on the
[22]Nevrax Design Team drawing called the [23]floating gnu. Lisa
worked for the FSF in the early days (86), she came back a few
weeks ago after 8 years of vacations (;-) to be the Account
Manager. I was most impressed by her ability to write and speak
Chinese fluently. Beside the fact that it's a major advantage when
going out in china town, that will help setting up FSF China. Janet
quietly works on the Free Software Directory and I'm ashamed to say
that I did not spare an hour to talk with her about it. I guess
I'll have to come back next year then ;-) Bradley does the usual
thing a Vice President and a kernel do : switching context.
Although I did not count them, a wild guess would be that he
handles from 30 to 100 contexts a day. Well, except the day he
spent talking to journalists about RMS's talk to counter the Craig
Mundie statement.
On Friday evening Lisa used her skills to organize a diner in china
town to celebrate the existence of the FSF Europe. This tribute to
the FSF Europe from the FSF was materialized by a Chinese cake
reading Thanks FSF Europe in red letters. I was more moved that I'd
be willing to admit but I got over it by drinking half of the Veuve
Cliquot bottle. On behalf of the FSF Europe members and friends, I
extend my gratitude to all FSF members and friends. Let's unite and
make Free Software available to all. Hips.
Sunday night my work was over and I started to relax. I asked
[24]Roland McGrath for diner but he moved to California some time
(years ?) ago. Oh well. Then, at 3am, while exchanging email with
[25]Leonard H. Tower Jr. I realized that he was probably a few
blocs away. It was indeed the case and we met for lunch near tech
square. He shared some of his souvenirs of the early days when he
co-founded the Free Software Foundation with RMS.
Before leaving tech square to the airport Bradley introduced me to
Gary Sussman. Gary scared the shit out of me by explaining that the
copyright law is controlled by Disney, world wide. Since he is a
member of the FSF board I should better check this to find out if
he was kidding or not :-)
I was not here to investigate legal matters, though. I diverted
most of the subjects that popped in the conversations by sending
email or adding tasks to Savannah. I had to focus on the real work:
installing the new machine in the collocation space and migrate the
content of the old machine to the new. That may seem boring at
first but this is counting without [26]Joel N. Weber II and
[27]Mark H. Weaver.
Replacing the machine used by the GNU project for [28]CVS and the
[29]Savannah development tool became necessary when RMS agreed that
it should welcome all Free Software projects that needed it, not
just the GNU packages. The PII300 with 128Mb of RAM and 5Gb of disk
had to be replaced. FSF France and APRIL called for donations and
found 40 000 FF for this purpose in two weeks time. While gathering
money I virtually shopped for hardware under the direction of Joel
who already had a precise idea of what was needed. The new machine
is a brand new dual PIII 800 with 1GB of ECC RAM and 90Gb of disk.
As always, it was not as simple as one would expect. Joel has an
excellent contact with Barton Bruce, Vice President of Global Naps,
a major provider of the Boston area. Global Naps is already
providing the T1 to the DO and extended this offer to host machines
of the GNU project in their main collocation building. The new
Savannah machine was the opportunity to take advantage of this
offer but it required a switch, a UPS and a terminal controller in
addition to the machine.
We ended up finding all those for a total of 37 000 FF which is a
really good deal knowing that all hardware is new and has all the
features a system administrator need to manage hardware in a
collocation space. Part of this low price must be credited to Larry
Augustin who gave us a special price break of 20% on the VA 2230 we
chose to buy. Another part comes from Joel who provided an old
desktop to act as the terminal controller.
You see, Joel has this interesting theory that an old machine that
does mostly nothing is perfectly fit for the job of controlling
serial ports. Someone has still to prove him wrong on that subject.
In addition a machine with a full fledged Free Software operating
system has encryption and this is something no specialized terminal
controller hardware cares to provides. That is surprising
considering that the terminal controller allows you to watch the
machines consoles and remotely power cycle them. In most cases you
can even interact with the bios at boot time.
Before this week I was not really convinced that a terminal control
was mandatory when installing a machine at a collocation space.
After spending a few days rebooting and crashing the machine
installed a few miles away, I could not turn back. This is not only
something you need for emergency situations, it's something you
need to install or upgrade the machine. It saves a lot of stress.
Also Bradley spared half an hour to install grub and teach me the
basics. I'm converted. Mark was my co-worker to plan the actual
migration once the hardware was setup. We agreed that we should
keep it as simple as possible. Mark designed a migration plan based
on rsync. The idea was simple: copy all the file systems, replace
the kernel, reboot and switch the DNS names. The actual migration
plan takes about one page and turned out to be that simple. We did
a hardware upgrade and kept the software installation untouched.
On Thursday Joel drove his truck to the DO where Mark and I waited
a good half an hour on the pavement with the equipment. It took us
another hour to drive the four miles to Quincy where Global Naps
have their collocation space. Barton Bruce was expecting us and we
went right to the fourth floor with all the packets. At this point
the game was to mount the hardware in racks that look like aluminum
ladders instead of the usual file cabinets. Barton, Joel and Mark
had fun trying to guess the center of mass of each equipment. After
a short stop to the fridge, Barton granted us a tour of the
building. Global Naps is an open collocation space where each
client is invited not to mess with other people hardware unless he
has the desire to see his own drop of the roof. Barton told us that
this is literally written down on the contracts and actually
happened once in the past six years.
At the end of the day the machine was online and I had two more
days to prepare for the actual switch-over. After Joel fixed a
minor problem with the kernel of the terminal controller taking a
good half of the 8MB of available RAM, I happily rebooted and
tested the new machine from tech square. I had to recompile the
kernel to increase the maximum number of groups per process. When
booting this new kernel on the exact rsync'd copy of the file
systems of the old machine, I merely had to change a few
configuration files to get it working properly.
During a good 8 hours on Saturday I exercised the migration many
times, running rsync to keep up to date with the old machine,
rebooting, testing all the services. At the same time Joel
decreased the TTL of the gnu.org zone to minimize the propagation
delay. The day before, I sent a warning to the 700 users of the
machine, advertising the switch-over for Sunday morning. And indeed
I was able to switch-over as planned. Being extra careful and
double checking every bit, the down-time was around 40 minutes.
Half an hour later everything was routed to the new machine.
This was the conclusion of a successful, 100% cooperative project
involving FSF, APRIL, FSF France and GNU. It went more smoothly
than most similar projects I experienced. It also involved a lot of
knowledgeable people than no company could afford to get to work
together. As a conclusion I would just like to thank all of them:
Barton Bruce, Joel N. Weber II, Mark H. Weaver, Bradley M. Kuhn,
Richard M. Stallman, Brian Youmans, Philippe Gerum, Juliette
Bertho, Larry Augustin, Didier Guyomarch, Rodolphe Quiedeville,
Cyril Bouthors.
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Lutz Horn wrote:
>"The software of this project is released under the GNU GPL but before
>you can download a copy you additionaly have to agree to so called
>'Allgemeine Geschäftsbedingungen (AGB)' which on the project site is
>translated as 'general terms of business'."
The AGBs are important due to the German law. They explain among other
how to interprete the GPL under the German law. This is because there
exists no translation of the GPL and because the American and German
law differ in
e.g. in terms of the copyright law.
Detail information can be found here:
http://www.ifross.de/ifross_html/publikation.html
article: 10. Open Source Software and German Copyright Law
more information (German only) is available -on:
http://www.campussource.de/opensource/docu_opensource/cs_siepmann1.pdfhttp://www.ifross.de/ifross_html/publikation.html articles: 1-9
ILIAS is part of CampusSource (http://www.campussource.org/). CampusSource
provides open source infrastructure software for the use of new
media for teaching
and learning at universities. The initiative decided for the GPL,
but had to face the
problem of the different laws. The server is operated in the
CampusSource office and as
the office we have to put up the AGBs. At the moment, we are
translating the ABGs into English and it will soon be available.
Lutz Horn wrote:
>"The licensee is obligated to carefully keep his password for the
> download area [of the web site] and not to disclose it to third
> parties. The licensee is liable for any damage which rise from a
> violation of this obligation of carefulnes."
>So why this sentence? What if I download the software and immediatly
> put it on my own web site for download without the need for
> registration? Even though I don't disclose my password, I make
> available all the additional information I got from registering at
> the original web site. The licenser could interpred this as a
> violation of the obligation quoted above.
We, as the people being responsible for our server, have to make
sure that everybody who downloads the software from our server has
accepted the AGB (our layer said).
Third people, who accepted the AGBs, downloaded the software and who
want to distribute the software themselves are only required to
distribute the software under the GPL.
> 3. Under '5. Schutzrechte Dritter' the licenser states that according to
> his knowledge the software does not violate the rights of any third
> parties (in Germany). To keep it that way the licensse is obligated
> to (and again, my poor translation):
>
> "not use the software for himself or under order of third parties for
> the purpose of searching for violation of third party rights",
>
> "immediatly inform the licenser if third parties claim any rights",
>
> "if the licensee has the imperssion that the software violates third
> party rights he is obligated to immediatly inform the licenser in
> written form about this violation including a detailed description of
> the act of violation. It is disallowed to the licensee to inform any
> other natural of legal entities without written permission of the
> licenser (about the violation of third party rights)."
>
> "If any of the about obligations ('Nebenpflichten') is violated the
> licensee takes the obligation to pay compensation to the licenser for
> all damage done by the violation."
According to our layer this has to be there to prevent that people try to make
money by purposefully looking for violations.
Reinhard Mueller wrote
>One additional problem I see is: Will these AGBs be valid for people
>that get this software from somewhere else? They will probably never
>have seen them...
they are not valid for for people who get this software from somewhere else
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email: sonja.branskat(a)campussource.de
Telefon: (+49) 02331 987 4258
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[
Summary: Placenet is likely to donate a machine to the GNU project,
hosted in Paris. One declared purpose of this machine is to keep an
rsync mirror of Savannah. This may happen this summer. No action
required on our part before Placenet sends a warning that the machine
is ready.
The primary contact is Frederic Cella (frederic(a)placenet.org) for
Placenet and Guillaume Morin for GNU (gmorin(a)gnu.org). I act as a
backup for Guillaume, if needs be.
]
Hi,
I just talked to Frederic Cella (frederic(a)placenet.org). He
proposes that Placenet donates a machine to the GNU project and hosts
it. I explained him what it means for a machine to be part of the GNU
project (technically, philosophically and socially). The machine will
be owned by placenet.
On the technical side, it will be installed with a stable
Debian and Frederic will provide access to the terminal controller to
access the EMP port of the machine. From this point the GNU volunteers
are welcome to take over. He proposes that the machine uses the file
server for storage and that Placenet takes care of the backups. The
communication between the storage and the machine uses coda. Frederic
agrees that if nobody in the GNU volunteers feel comfortable with coda,
the machine can be installed stand-alone with 40Gb of disk. I know nothing
about coda, maybe someone else does.
On the philosophical side, the donation of this machine to the
GNU project is done because Frederic is a long time defender of the
Free Software movement and a friend of rms. This makes me confident on
the fact that once the machine is in place we can count on the support
of Frederic. Another important aspect that motivates Frederic decision
is to mirror Savannah on a daily basis outside the US, just in case
the US government decides to take over. Although it is an unlikely
event, I see this as a good motive. A wish of Frederic is that among
other things this machine keeps an up-to-date mirror of the Savannah
machine (rsync of all file systems will do the job). If no volunteer
of the GNU project is willing to take the task, a technical guy from
placenet is likely to postulate for membership in the GNU project to
take care of this aspect. For various reasons too long to explain
here, Placenet and Gitoyen (the ISP Placenet builds with other
non-profit associations and companies in Paris and who is likely to
open its doors in the weeks to come) is a political project before
being a technical project.
On the social side Frederic understands that donating a
machine to the GNU project only works if the GNU volunteers are
willing to accept it and use it. This acceptance is determined by two
factors. The GNU volunteers must believe that the machine will not
vanish in 6 month time and in that respect the long time support
of Frederic to Free Software is a good guarantee to me. Maybe other
GNU volunteers who happen to know Frederic can speak up on this
subject. Additionally full technical control must be available and a
dedicated machine, with access to the EMP port gives this. Finally
Placenet must be trusted to provide a reliable network access and
hosting conditions that do not imply power failure every week. There
is no guarantee for this, experience will give the answer.
At that point no action is required from us. Frederic will
get back to us when he is about to install the machine. This may happen
this summer. If someone see a problem, please express yourself.
Cheers,
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75019 Paris Tel: 33 1 42 45 09 16 loic(a)gnu.org
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Mark H. Weaver writes:
> "Joel N. Weber II" <devnull(a)gnu.org> writes:
>
> > So, I'm pretty sure that Barton did not say that anyone's hardware has
> > actually been dropped off the roof, but that Frank would love to have
> > the opportunity to do that once.
>
> My memory agrees with Joel's.
My apologies to Barton and thanks for fixing my mistake. I
changed the page accordingly.
Cheers,
--
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Olivier Berger <oberger(a)april.org> a écrit :
> Jan-Oliver Wagner a écrit :
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 10:58:20PM +0200, Olivier Berger wrote:
> > > The news feed of FSF France which can be found on the web at
> >
> > just curious to know: is FSF France the same as FSF
> > Europe Chapter France or something different?
> >
>
> Absolutely the same. Just a simpler way to mention this organization.
>
> > If it is the same we should avoid to use terms like
> > FSF France, FSF Germany to have FSF Europe known as focal
> > point for European Free Software issues in general.
> >
> > If FSF Europe is meant to be the backbone for the national
> > chapters and not meant to be a contact point to the public,
> > the story is different, of course.
> >
>
> Well actually, that's more a backbone in what I can understand the
> structure of the FSFE...
>
> Actually, the name means the same thing but is easier to understand when
> you speak about FSF <country>.
>
> It might be wiser to use the "European" oriented version if you want to
> emphasize the importance of the organization and it's influence... and
> the country version when you want to stand closer to the people you're
> speaking to ?
> It depends mostly on whom you're talking to.
>
> Any other comments ?
>
> Any official policy ?
What do you think to say FSFE France ?
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